Linux Sysadmin CentOS 6 Course

[Yasha Karant]

Our group often has to familiarize research students to also be systems
software technicians (sysadmin). (At a minimum, these students have had
a typical USA undergraduate operating system theory course.) I
typically recommend Evi Nemeth's book that readily is available from a
number of sources (http://www.admin.com/), and then additional reading
for environment specifics (e.g., EL 6). I have found the following:

http://www.thegeekstuff.com/linux-sysadmin/

Linux Sysadmin CentOS 6 Course Helps You to Master the Tools, and
Configure it Right

The course costs $197 .

As CentOS 6, SL6, etc., are essentially the same from the same TUV
source distribution, this course should cover SL 6.

Is anyone familiar with the above? Recommendations (good or bad)?

Yasha Karant

[Konstantin Olchanski]

Post by Yasha Karant
Our group often has to familiarize research students to also be
systems software technicians (sysadmin). ...

This description sounds wrong. Sysadmin is an Engineer-level position,
not technician-level.

Here is the difference:
a technician knows how to install MySQL,
an Engineer knows whether to install MySQL, PgSQL or CouchDB.

These days, anybody who knows how to google and cut-and-paste-from-firefox-to-xterm
can install MySQL in 5 minutes. This skill set does not make a sysadmin. (Well,
maybe in Elbonia. Not in any place I worked, anyway).

[Yasha Karant]

This issue is quibbling. The students are educated as engineers by
your definition, but are not actually making the design or configuration
decisions. We do discuss such things as a group, so that the students
learn not only the theory but the "practical" considerations concerning
a particular application or sub-environment. We are not engaged in
vocational training ("voc ed"), but in the education of scientists and
engineers, with the intent that some will proceed through a relevant
earned PhD (or non-USA equivalent).

Aside from this title/job description, does anyone have familiarity with
the web advertised course? If so, and if the respondent also has
familiarity with Nemeth et al., how do these compare?

Yasha Karant

Post by Konstantin Olchanski

Post by Yasha Karant
Our group often has to familiarize research students to also be
systems software technicians (sysadmin). ...

This description sounds wrong. Sysadmin is an Engineer-level position,
not technician-level.
a technician knows how to install MySQL,
an Engineer knows whether to install MySQL, PgSQL or CouchDB.
These days, anybody who knows how to google and cut-and-paste-from-firefox-to-xterm
can install MySQL in 5 minutes. This skill set does not make a sysadmin. (Well,
maybe in Elbonia. Not in any place I worked, anyway).

[Stephen John Smoogen]

Post by Yasha Karant
Our group often has to familiarize research students to also be systems
software technicians (sysadmin). (At a minimum, these students have had a
typical USA undergraduate operating system theory course.) I typically
recommend Evi Nemeth's book that readily is available from a number of
sources (http://www.admin.com/), and then additional reading for

Having dealt with research students at another Lab, I am familiar with this
problem. If you are needing to get a sysadmin to the technician status then
this sort of course probably covers the work. This is a good I have a
summer job type thing to maybe 1 year GRA thing. After they take the
course, then I throw Evi Nemeth at them and see who picks it up. If they
pick it up and actually use it for various things and ask "Hey this says
this but it doesn't work on RHEL-6" then I know you have a keeper/lifer.

Post by Yasha Karant
http://www.thegeekstuff.com/**linux-sysadmin/<http://www.thegeekstuff.com/linux-sysadmin/>
Linux Sysadmin CentOS 6 Course Helps You to Master the Tools, and
Configure it Right
The course costs $197 .
As CentOS 6, SL6, etc., are essentially the same from the same TUV source
distribution, this course should cover SL 6.
Is anyone familiar with the above? Recommendations (good or bad)?
Yasha Karant

[Stephen John Smoogen]

Post by Stephen John Smoogen

Post by Yasha Karant
Our group often has to familiarize research students to also be systems
software technicians (sysadmin). (At a minimum, these students have had a
typical USA undergraduate operating system theory course.) I typically
recommend Evi Nemeth's book that readily is available from a number of
sources (http://www.admin.com/), and then additional reading for

Having dealt with research students at another Lab, I am familiar with
this problem. If you are needing to get a sysadmin to the technician status
then this sort of course probably covers the work. This is a good I have a
summer job type thing to maybe 1 year GRA thing. After they take the
course, then I throw Evi Nemeth at them and see who picks it up. If they
pick it up and actually use it for various things and ask "Hey this says
this but it doesn't work on RHEL-6" then I know you have a keeper/lifer.

To clarify.. I am not familiar with this course just similar ones.

[Paul Robert Marino]

have you looked at LPIC http://www.lpi.org/
way back when i worked for the NYC school system there was serious talk
about using their level 1 curriculum for high school student in my
district. unfortunately that plan was derailed by a massive restructuring
on the NYC Department of Education and an new administration which wasn't
open to the idea of teaching Linux.
That said it an excellent curriculum that focuses on General systems admin
and best practices rather than specific distributions. the great thing
about it is some one who passes these these can sit down in front of any
Linux box and have a good idea of what they are doing regardless of the
specific distribution.
the tests are cheap as well so it should be relatively inexpensive to get
all of the students certified at the end as their final.

Post by Stephen John Smoogen

Post by Stephen John Smoogen

Post by Yasha Karant
Our group often has to familiarize research students to also be systems
software technicians (sysadmin). (At a minimum, these students have had a
typical USA undergraduate operating system theory course.) I typically
recommend Evi Nemeth's book that readily is available from a number of
sources (http://www.admin.com/), and then additional reading for

Having dealt with research students at another Lab, I am familiar with
this problem. If you are needing to get a sysadmin to the technician status
then this sort of course probably covers the work. This is a good I have a
summer job type thing to maybe 1 year GRA thing. After they take the
course, then I throw Evi Nemeth at them and see who picks it up. If they
pick it up and actually use it for various things and ask "Hey this says
this but it doesn't work on RHEL-6" then I know you have a keeper/lifer.

To clarify.. I am not familiar with this course just similar ones.
--
Stephen J Smoogen.

[Thomas Bendler]

I would still recommend a general UNIX book as the starting point and than
something RHEL, SuSE, Ubuntu or whatsoever flavor book on top. If someone
learn the fundamental basics in UNIX system administration, it doesn't
matter if he work with any kind of Linux flavor, BSD, commercial UNIX or
something else at the end, he will still be able to administrate the
system. Knowing the concept and design behind UNIX is much more valuable
compared to the knowledge how to call YaST i.e., especially if you start
learning UNIX.

Regards Thomas

Post by Yasha Karant
Our group often has to familiarize research students to also be systems
software technicians (sysadmin). (At a minimum, these students have had a
typical USA undergraduate operating system theory course.) I typically
recommend Evi Nemeth's book that readily is available from a number of
sources (http://www.admin.com/), and then additional reading for
http://www.thegeekstuff.com/**linux-sysadmin/<http://www.thegeekstuff.com/linux-sysadmin/>
Linux Sysadmin CentOS 6 Course Helps You to Master the Tools, and
Configure it Right
The course costs $197 .
As CentOS 6, SL6, etc., are essentially the same from the same TUV source
distribution, this course should cover SL 6.
Is anyone familiar with the above? Recommendations (good or bad)?
Yasha Karant